I think Jon & Kate are very irresponsible and immature... messing w/ infertility drugs, having 8 kids and divorcing. Doesn't anyone think these things through? And I don't believe all this talk about doing everything for the "kids." They are out for themselves hair plugs, tummy tucks and all.

Greg, you believe those are the things that would make them irresponsible and immature? I'm sure that there are things you could say about Jon and Kate that would point to being irresponsible and immature, but certainly not the three you mentioned. There are millions of women who use fertility treatments to get pregnant when they can't naturally and some so end up having sets of multiples because of it. To say it is immature, is incredibly disrespectful.
As far as a divorce goes, for some families, and for some parents, it is actually a far more responsible and mature decision to separate in the long run. My parents divorced when I was a child and my life is honestly better for it. They, and I, have had a better life with the two of them apart.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't appear that they've gone through any counseling to work out their problems. Perhaps their problems are really too big to avoid divorce, but there were some things said last night (he doesn't talk to her; there's so much anger btwn the two; he doesn't know what he wants) that made it pretty obvious that there is a lot unresolved. They say they do "everything for the kids" but that kind of tension between them is going to be the 11th person in the room every time they get together which is going to suck for those kids. I wish they had gotten some serious help first; heck, I'm sure TLC could've found them a big-time marriage counselor!

i'm so sad for them!! : (

Kate is irresponsible because she played with fire and got burned, her doctor had given her fertility drugs, told her NOT to have sex at that time because she was over producing eggs (she was NOT implanted with embryos) and she went home anyway and told Jon it was okay to have sex, and they did and the 6 came from that. havent you ever heard kate say to Jon "i am sorry, do you forgive me?" when talking about getting pregnant?

from the beginning Kate has been in control of what has happened to her family, she has alienated HER entire family because she wanted to be in the spotlight, Jon has been along for the ride for his childrens sake but obviously couldnt take it anymore.

what we all need to do is stop watching this show.

I refuse to watch this show anymore. I think Jon, Kate, and TLC are all disgusting for turning this sad, serious matter into entertainment. TURN THE SHOW OFF!

This show is obviously no longer for the kids. It's for the parents. I hope TLC cancels the show so that these kids don't have to go through this time with cameras directly in their faces. Shame on the parents for doing this publicly.

I can't watch this show anymore, it is not about the kids. I think the parents should not be happy about that sham of a vow renewal last year. They made a big production about how it was to show the kids how committed they are to each other. The part that is hard is that the kids can refer back to that show and look at their parents as hypocrites. Apparently these marital problems were happening then.

What is awesome about this, is that when these kids get older they have a record of just how crappy thier mother treated thier father. Jon doesnt have to say "well on my side I did...blah blah and your mom did blah blah" they can pop in the dvd and say "gee dad I am surprised you hung in there that long!"

I just am so sad for the kids. The kids have become a commercial enterprise for TLC and for Jon and Kate. Both are exploiting the kids at this point and I think TLC should stop producing the show.

I think that CaterpillarGirl is touching on a point that no one has yet mentioned. Do Jon and Kate, (Kate in particular) realize that when the kids are older, they will look back on all of this footage and not only realize how their parents treated each other, but also how they treated their kids? It's hard enough growing up with many siblings and trying to navigate your world, but to have it publicized has got to be even harder, and I'm sure mortifying as the kids get older. I would think that the kids would be more than a little upset that, as Kate likes to say, "the good and the bad" was displayed for all the world to see.

One episode in particular that I found horrifying was when the kids had the flu and Kate put one of her sons IN THE LAUNDRY ROOM ON THE COLD TILE FLOOR becuase she was annoyed at having to wash their brand new comforters.That is when I decided I had enough of this show, and felt that Kate is just in this for the money. I am sure that's what Jon realized and wanted out, in addition to being tired of her pushing him around. I don't condone his cheating, if it is in fact true, but how much can a person take?

It will be hard for the kids, but the only ones to blame are Jon and Kate. Her for being selfish, him for not standing up to her. For two people whose mantra is "we do everything for our kids", I can't see anything they have done for them, other than giving them material things. The best thing they could have done was cancel the show at the first sign of trouble and work on their relationships with each other and their kids in private, instead of airing their dirty laundry on TV.

i wish they would stop the show. while i understand the media will still haunt them, perhaps they can find some peace once the cameras are turned off.

while many people are siding with kate, i feel bad for jon. we've all watched the past seasons and how kate treated him. i think jon finally came to his senses and wanted to be treated with some respect. i can see that asa reason for a lot of his anger.

i do feel bad for kate. it's as though she doesn't have a clue as to why jon is so mad. it's all on tape ... we've all watched it.

i try to keep the cheating rumors out of my reasoning because i've also read stories of how their marriage has been over for some time and they had an agreement to see other people. not sure what the truth is in terms of that but suddenly that doesn't seem to be an issue (at least not discussed on the show last night) so it makes me wonder.

i hope they stop the show. i don't think it's helping any of them at this point.

well i honestly dont think it matters how kate treated Jon, it was insane but to walk out of a marriage with 8 kids at home is just wrong. They should have gone through some sort of counseling stopped the show, tried to work on the tone and marriage.

last night as a Jon supporter, I started to think he is just being immature and liked the attention from the younger girls and just gave up, cause the other life was more fun. very sad. you arent looking out for the kids when you just give up.

One of the biggest things that has bothered me all along is that they keep saying, "we do everything for the kids." That's just wrong; look at what it's done for them! You have to make your kids a focus of your lives, but you also have to make your relationship/marriage a priority! Maybe if they hadn't been doing it all for the kids and had taken some time to continuously work on their own relationship like we all should, they may still have a marriage. We could all learn from what's happened to their relationship!

i agree with the Fairy Odd Mother.....in all of this chaos there has been no effort made to get counselled....they have ended this marriage without trying and that to me makes me really wonder if the children are truly first in their lives.....whatever it takes....is a phrase used too loosely.....because if they both willing to do whatever it takes for their children they would have stayed married and work it out.....they need Dr. Laura or Dr. Phil to give them some help

I think it's BS that Kate gets all the flack. He agreed to everything that happened in that show. I've watched it from the beginning and the thing is, he never wanted those kids in the first place, you watch the first special and he makes it clear that he was happy with two, knew the repercussions of trying for more and was sure he didn't want to reduce. If he didn't want more kids, he should have said no then...you can't come back five years later and say you're not sure.

People say they only cared about themselves but, if you watch those first few specials, they were working 24/7 to feed those babies and they were struggling. Kids cost money, 8 kids cost a lot of money and the show provides that money. No one really knows what their finances are and, as someone who grew up with parents who couldn't really enjoy their children because they were so busy trying to feed and cloth them, I understand wanting as much money as possible. Money can't buy you happiness but, then again, if you don't have money, you can't buy anything.

That woman has 8 kids and, half the time, Jon acted like her taller, balder 9th kid so yeah, she's not easy to deal with all the time but what woman would be in her situation. Notice how Jon was much less jovial when he had to be the one to go home and hand out with the kids? I just hate how so many women (who I'm sure, are models of feminine comportment and who are sure to always treat their husbands like kings at all times) are bashing the hell out of her. And I've always said that if I were in her situation, I would give him full custody of the kids and then I would be the one getting a high-rise apartment in NY and hanging out with 20 year olds while claiming I just want what's best for my kids. Please.

Jon sat there with his earrings on(don't have anything against earrings but he has never worn them before) and mentioned that he was excited about the future, that he is only 32 he has his whole life ahead of him, he is proud of himself for finally standing up to Kate. He just married way to young, let Kate make all the decisions and in the meantime had 8 kids. He wants to have fun and get his twenties back and I think it's a very selfish to try and accomplish that now when he has 8 kids at home. They say that they are going to split time at the house so the kids can stay there....we shall see how long that really lasts. As soon as they start seeing other people that arrangement is going out the window.

I think if I were them I would stop doing the show. But it's obvious that they can't. But it is a reality show and the reality is that divorce is a major issue plaguing our society. And maybe this has caused people to look at their own marriage or look at how they treat their own spouses and make positive changes in their life.

And those that are so outraged that they are still doing the show just don't watch it.TLC will obviously cancel the show if it isn't getting any viewers.

"first of all, how does CATERPILLARGIRL know about jon & kate's sex life?? "

All she did was relay a story KATE VOLUNTARILY TOLD on the show, and the specials before it was a regular show. Gosh, I wonder how she knew???

You know, I watched those specials too and I don't remember either one of them telling that story at all. I remember them sitting on the couch together and talking about how they had 2 and Kate wanted 1 more. Jon didn't but he said he agreed to try and that they both excepted that they might have twins or even triplets but that having as many babies as they did was a rarity.

I don't usually watch the show, but I tuned in last night after all the build up. Like you said, lilsugar, it was extremely emotional and I found myself holding back tears thinking about the kids and how many people will be affected by the split. Obviously they had cameras on them, but I thought both Jon and Kate were civil and clear they have a long road ahead and are very worried about the kids and future holidays and traditions. Best of luck to that family!

sick.

Well they have shared the story. Numerous times. You don't remember it, I understand that. Doesn't mean other people are making it up.

I think it is very sad for all of them, like any family that is breaking apart. The saddest part of the show for me was when Jon mentioned that very soon the young kids would be in school full time,and how the 2 of them always used to look forward to that day, now it's here & they can't enjoy that time together. They have issues, no doubt, but 8 months is not long enough to determine whether you could work things out in a 10-year marriage, IMO.

just go to Gosselins without pity dot com and you will know how i know "anonymous"

i think there was a reason god made kate infertile. people like her should not be allowed to procreate.

I think the whole thing is completely disgusting on TLC's and Jon & Kate's part. I know they say over and over how much they loe their kids and I do believe that they love them but I don't think they have their very best interest at heart. If they did they would have stopped the show a long time ago.

Secondly, I really don't understand why Kate gets all or most of the blame. In my mind it is 50/50. However, Jon did nothing to help his image last night. I thought he might as well have just wrote "MID-LIFE CRISIS" on his forehead because that is exactly how it looked. He kept saying, "I'm only 32, I'm only 32" and yeah that is young but he's not 22 either. If he really feels that he is just now standing up for himself, that is great, but he already made life changing decisions and he can't exactly go back. I for one am not impressed by his new found self-confidence....maybe his 20 year old girlfriends are though.

Lastly, I am continually shocked by just how much personal information Kate seems to willingly share. She needs to find a girl friend to share all her problems with instead of the camera. That is what most people do.
Sadly, those kids will not only have to live out this mess but they will also get to watch it. I'm done with TLC.

"i think there was a reason god made kate infertile. people like her should not be allowed to procreate."

That's a really classy statement snarkypants. Is everybody who is suffering from infertility have a deity with a personal vendetta against them, or is it just people who you consider unworthy?

I refuse to watch this show anymore! I can't believe they haven't learned to stop talking so poorly of each other on NATIONAL TV. When the kids grow up, they will have to see their parents bashing one another. Just sad.

i just find people like her who go through all of those fertility treatments to be incredibly selfish. are you that self-absorbed that you must have your own spawn? why not adopt? i don't get it.

oh, and if you're so "classy", why don't you get a username instead of being anonymous?

I thought it was very strange and sad when Kate was crying and saying how afraid she was of doing "this" all alone. At the same time the clips of Jon were of of him saying how he is looking forward to this new chapter in his life..taking it day by day.."maybe he'll get a job offer"....
Whether or not he got married young or what all of the back info is as to how he got into this situation, I thought it to be very selfish and inconsiderate of him to be thinking and saying those things so quickly. I wish he too was lamenting his having to be alone. At least just for a moment Jon, hold back your excitement of leaving your first family behind and starting your "exciting new chapter".

One thing I noted was Kate saying something like: I don't think John realizes the ramifications of his actions and how it will effect the future.I am sure she sees the money and perks disappearing, because there will is no future for their show. Why would anyone contine to watch this? In the end, I think Kate let money and her five minutes of fame get to her and she sees it all coming to an end. Kates actions have spoken volumes about the type of person she is.....she has shown many examples of how NOT to mother a child or be a loving wife. She seriously needs counseling for her issues...its no wonder Jon was unhappy and looked for love elsewhere. And to continue the charade for so long of a happy couple/family for TV ratings and money is just disturbing on so many levels. Jon wanted to quit the show last year, she said she loved it and planned to continue. And didn't they just renew their wedding vows last year? Oh wait, that was the free trip to Hawaii. Everyone needs to stop watching this show...Jon and Kate are now (and in my opinion have always been)in this for the money and "fame". It would be interesting to know how much money has been set aside for each childs future with the earnings from the show.

I was never a fan but I have to admit I'm fascinated. But it's also not like we couldn't have seen this coming. Getting married so young, jumping into parenthood with 8 children... it's not surprising this happened.

a) they werent that young and B) they at first only had two.

I'm with everyone who doesn't get the Hate on Kate thing. I mean, yea I would hate to have her as a mom...she's harsh and b*tchy, and she was mean to Jon on the show, sure. But have you guys been watching??? He always gave it right back to her. They always yelled at each other. She lost her patience, he lost his. That's how it works when you're married from time to time. That's definitely how it works when you have 8 kids.

Jon was a COMPLETE dbag last night. You can tell - he's just over it. Done. No trying to make it work. No counseling. No communication. Nothing. He's got his earrings and cool graphic t-shirt and his spikey longer hair. He's ready to be "only 32" and live his life as if he hasn't been doing that for the past 10 years. And as bad as Kate is, I felt for her and really believed her when she said she doesn't want to be alone. Jon wasn't sitting there with a box of tissues. He actually said he was "excited". Sorry, but you should not be excited about splitting up your family.

I hate this show now. I won't be tuning in for another episode.

Did anyone think that when they were getting ready to go to brunch that they were going to film Jon and Kate telling the kids that they are splitting up? I was so horrified and then relieved when it turned out to just be Mother's Day brunch.

And I think that Kate seems to have a much better attitude than Jon. Jon seems way too eager to go out and live "his" life when he still has 8 kids at home. Hopefully Kate can get a grip and let go of stardom and be the good mom she was earlier on the show.

It's so hard to make judgment on the treatment of Jon or Kate when we ONLY see what TLC has edited. That being said, for the sake of the children, the show should be taken OFF THE AIR

Chouette4U i thought the same thing. I thought they were taking the kids out to brunch to tell them. I was glad they didn't because that would have been really crappy if they told the kids on camera.

Why not adopt snarkypants? Well, for one, it's expensive. More expensive than fertility treatments. Some fertility treatments are covered under insurance making it a more affordable option than adoption for a lot of couples.

Oooh. It's not classy to post anonymously here? Hmm, that statement really doesn't make a lot of sense. But do you know what definitely isn't classy or even civil or human for that matter? Suggesting that God smites people through infertility.

Doesn't TLC means The Learning Channel? What have we learned from this show: How a family goes from a blessing to divorce in front of the whole world. It might have started as a "novelty" of how parents of multiples can cope with their new challenges and in the process benefited from the huge income they where going to receive. Maybe in the beginning Jon and Kate were excited with all the media hype. Someone previously said that Jon was the 9th child and he was. I hardly watched this show, to me it was very intrusive. Kate, it seems to me, was always in charge and Jon was just going along for the ride. The bump on the log idiot as he adverstised himself. Then last night sitting there wearing earrings saying that he is only 32 yaers old and he needs to be happy and find himself? The man does not have a job his job was this TV show. What he needs is to grow up and fast as far as Kate goes she said she does not want to do this alone..well you have been doing this alone. They both need counseling badly but I think is somewhat a little too late. The train has left the station. Marriage and parenting does not come with a manual of instructions. It is hard work, a labor of love if you will, if you can not handle that it was not meant for you. As far as fertility treatments goes. Thank God for it because if it was not available I would not have my 2 beautiful daughters the light of my world. Adoption may have been an option but in this country is nearly impossible, try it sometime.

No doubt this is a sad development... they should have stopped the show and gone to counseling. I feel bad for Kate, and I really think a lot of her attitude lately has been because of the pressure she's under. I think Jon saw how he was portrayed on the show and one day decided he wasn't going to take it, and now wants to go back to his 20s (with the help of douchey earrings).

I feel sick about this whole thing. Who is looking out for these children? Obviously not Jon and Kate! It seems to me that they didn't even try to work it out. And I really feel like this whole thing stemmed from Jon. He is obviously going through some kind of rebellion and doesn't want to have all this responsibility that has been placed upon him. I felt like Kate (even though I do not think she is blameless and can be a total jerk at times) didn't want this at all. She seemed to be wanting to try harder to work it out and Jon is just all "excited" for his new life! How can he look at himself in the mirror?! I just wanted to reach into the TV and rip those earrings out of his ears! He sits there trying to act like he is a teenager again. Well I got news for you someday he is going to regret this when he sees all the hurt that it causes his kids. That show wont be lasting much longer I can guarantee it. People don't want to watch this mess unfold any longer. I have been a fan of this show since day one but I don't feel I can watch it anymore. It just makes me angry that they are so selfish that they can't even try longer than a few months to work it out. It is so sad to me that divorce seems to be the answer for everything these days. They're troubles ARE NOT going to leave with divorce. You can't run away from things and hope they aren't going to find you. Divorce is not the answer.

It is just sad that there are so many children involved in this mess.

I am, however, curious how they work out support!!! Support for 8 kids? Wowsers!

I felt sick hearing Jon say he was "excited." With a husband like that no wonder Kate turned into a crappy wife (cold, bitter, demanding). Jon was clearly immature when they married, and while Kate dove into figuring out how to make it all work Jon just sat back for the ride. When communicating with your husband is like pulling teeth, it is no wonder she gave up trying.

They say people grow up when they have kids, he obviously missed the memo. I'm presuming in 20 years he will looks back on this mid life crisis (dating 23 year olds???) and understand why Kate was so frustrated with him all the time.

I do have to say that divorce isn't always a bad thing. I am divorced and believe me my relationship with my ex husband is waaaaaay better now. I admit, the divorce was sad and hard because I didn't ever hate him, we just couldn't get on the same page and after 10 years of trying, we made the decision to divorce. We just didn't work well married, but as friends we are great. He is a good guy and trust me this has been the best for our son. I agree is may not be the answer in every situation but in others it is the best thing.

As for Jon and Kate, I honestly can't say cuz I don't watch it. But I do hope that whatever they do they at least try to do the right thing for themselves and those kids.

I think to happy parents divorced is better than two miserable, mad parents married.

While two happy divorced parents are better than two miserable, mad married parents, I think that happy married parents are best.

I've been thinking a lot about marraige this past week. My husband and I get along really well and are fairly happy, but are going through a hard time and I just realized the other day that we are both dealing with it on our own, with each of us being the martyr and thinking about how hard it is for our own self, not teaming together and fighting for each other. While I'm sad it has happened, I'm so glad that I noticed. I think turning that around is going to make us both so much happier. And our happiness together has a huge impact on our son and our home. I think people get divorced so easily now. They seem to check out emotionally when things get hard instead of sticking it out and working hard and growing together.

Cherrygirl, this is totally not directed at you! I just realized this could be taken totally wrong right after your post.

I cant believe that after all the borderline heinous things that Jon has done, so many people are still blaming kate for this. Just because she filed the divorce papers because he was looking at moving into NYC without an income of his own doesn't mean that she wanted this.

jon and kate was my favorite show. every time when it came on i watched it. when i saw the big announcement i was so surprised and kind of mad. but i think it was the right thing to do
hope yall will have a fun life

I just think people should not believe everything they read on the internet.

But I really don't care (or think it's sad) that they are divorcing because they brought this on themselves but I just didn't like when Jon said he was "excited" about the divorce. Who the hell gets excited about a divorce especially when there are kids invovled. I just think Jon is being immature about the whole situation and isn't thinking about how his actions today will affect his family tomorrow. He mentions his age like that makes a difference, I don't care if Jon is 32 with 8 kids, Kate is 34 with 8 kids. Not that large of a difference.

I feel sorry for the kids because both sets of multiples are still very young to understand wht their parents are about to do and what they will go throught with their divorce . An observation I also made was when Jon and kate where in good terms Jon dressed differently and was well pressed and now he dresses trying to look younger and had piercings on his ears when in other episodes he never wore that or looked like that.. another thing Kate was fighting trying to keep her self from crying and i saw her emotions very real and true and jon had an I dont care attitude! That really mad me feel sad! I wish Both Jon and Kate the best and I really wish things had ended up differently! and for the Gosselin Kids they are in my prayers hoping and I hope the Divorce wont affect them.. God Bless!!