There is a very simple solution: End the show. Broadcasting your marital problems on television is not going to help. Neither is travelling around the country doing book tours and crying to tabloids

I think its time they step out of the limelight and we all just left them alone....

Ending the show won't fix the problem. It's their marriage that's falling apart and what is going on between them is much more complicated than just ending the show. I'm sure right now Kate is trying to figure out how she's going to afford those 8 beautiful children as a single mother- a worry that will make it even harder for her to quit the show.

I think the marriage is over, show or no show. They have obviously fell out of love.
I don't think Jon has changed so much, I just think he had a more difficult time articulating his feelings, or he is just sick of baring it all for the cameras. He said a few times, thats between Kate and I.
And Kate hardly cried, she didn't want to ruin her make up.

i had a lump in my throat too watching it,kate was so distant with jon she couldn't even fake it for the camera...she didn't tease him or give him those taps like she always does,you could feel the pain,it was a little heartwrenching.as for jon,no smile,no jokes,that's sad.i do think that their marriage is over at this point,i waited for them to say that they still love each other but all they talked about was doing it for the kids....so sad

That was such a sad episode. To the person above that mentioned when Kate said "I dont want to mess my makeup up" - I think that was her trying to make light, or get past a hard moment for her because she NEVER cries on camera. You could tell she's heartbroken, and you can tell that she's clearly still "there" - still wants to be there. Its Jon that doesnt.

I was really surprised by the episode - he was callous and cold and I find it really sad. I hope they can work it out.

The whole thing is just so sad.

Shomonig, Kate makes far more money than Jon right now, so I doubt she would have to worry about trying to afford the children as a single mother. Additionally, I think it's interesting that you automatically assume that Kate would get primary custody, especially given that Jon's the one who's there with the kids every day while Kate travels to promote her book.

Yes, Jon did seem a little distant, but you could tell, even in past seasons, that he has been unhappy with being on the show for some time now. At the end of last season, he made it very clear that he didn't want to do the show any longer and that he wouldn't have chosen to quit his job.

Kate irked me because I felt like she was acting perfect, like nothing was her fault.

Also, Kate's attitude about the paparazzi, fame, etc. bugged me. You chose this life. I feel bad for the kids, but not for her.

So when does Kate ever take responsibility, again it is all Jon's fault. I cried when Alexis told Jon "I don't want you to leave anymore". I feel sorry for Jon it is apparent he has no voice when she is around her, he was very talkative when he was alone. What pissed me off the most was her constant I am doing this alone, well how the hell do you think Jon felt when she was out promoting her book? One last thing that really got under my skin was when she made that comment about "it's not like he is doing it alone he has help", so does she, I don't think she helped whatsoever with the preparation of the party it was all the helpers, she couldn't even round up the kids.

i think jon has made many compromises for his family, while kate quit her job as a nurse, i feel that she thrives off of being in the limelight, and jon doesn't. Through the seasons kate has changed so much. Even in last nights episode, she just seemed kind of fake about it all, and wasn't it weird that there were no family friends? where was beth? where was jodi? jenny? not a single familiar face at that party. and another thing that I noticed was that the older girls didn't interact with jon at all. the whole thing is very sad, and kind of difficult to watch.

Rabbit Kake cut her brother Kevin and his wife Jodi from the show, because of her stingy and greedy ways (money.)

Anyone can see that kate thrives on all the attention, she thinks she is a big star now, and yes she chose this all so she can't be irked with paparazzi...she seems to think she has to promote her books, leave all the time when the truth is she wants to leave all the time! poor jon...and what is the deal with her porcupine hair doo???

From what I saw, he's unhappy because he doesn't have a life of his own anymore. Kate's out promoting her book, and he's at home with the children - whom he loves, don't get me wrong, but I think he wants a life outside the house again. I think this is what has led him to go out partying and such. He probably has a lot of resentment towards Kate for all of this. Kate, in the meantime, is blossoming into a role she never saw for herself, but resents him stepping out for...whatever. (Why he wasn't there for the party planning is their business, not mine.) There's a lot of resentment and pain there, and I can't blame either one of them for it.

I still think that, as much as I love the show, they need to end it. I don't know if they'll make it as a married couple, but I feel that if they keep on with the show, they definitely won't.

I feel bad for everyone involved - Jon, Kate, and all eight of their wonderful kids.

The show has to go in order for them to save their marriage. Period. I was so confused hearing Kate say over and over, "I don't know what's wrong, I don't get it..."

Yes you do, he said he doesn't want to live like this anymore. Even her complaining about the paparazzi was totally contrived, she sounded like Lindsay Lohan, "oh, they're so obsessed with me, it's annoying." What the hell is she doing giving People interviews? Why does she get so dolled up to go to the store when she used to be in sweats? Because she tasted fame.

ugh... i really didn't like the way kate treated jon in the previous seasons.. poor man. no wonder why there were pictures of him in bars and such... although no wife deserves to be cheated on, kate should have at least made jon's life a little less miserable

That episode was so sad to watch, it was depressing. I had been looking forward to seeing what they would say, but when it was over I just felt sad. It's a horrible situation and I can't imagine going through that with 8 children at home. They were married so young and their lives have gone through so much since then. This show always used to make me smile, now it is hard to watch. What will the rest of the season be like I wonder. Is he even living there at this point?

This was so sad. How can this show possibly go on like this? I don't want to watch a marriage fall apart every week. I think Kate may be wrong when she says, "they can't go back." I think they probably could. The "public" is very easily distracted. The tabloids and the paparrazi may not disappear overnight, but give it 6 months or so & they will move on. Without a show, there won't be any reason for tabloids to report on their family or cameramen to stake out their house.

a couple of things: they are in a contract for this season, i am not sure what breaking that would do to them, but i think kate has to make a decsion on whether she wants the show, and opportunities that will come along with it, or her marriage..while they both play a part in this, i think kate will look back with regrets.. in a way, i see where she's coming but to sacrifice her marriage over it, will it really be worth it? from what the show displays of them, it seems to me like she really doesn't have a clue about the way she's changed in the last couple of years..
all that glitters isn't gold.

A bit hypocritical for Kate to b*tch about the paparazzi and then do an interview with People. She seems like she's trying to be very "Hollywood" -- that awful haircut, the highlights (which must get touched up pretty often), the french manicure. I'm not suggesting that a mother shouldn't take care of herself, but she seems so wrapped up in how she looks.

And oh, boo-hoo Kate for planning this party all by your lonesome. liar !

I don't know why everyone feels so comfortable demonizing Kate. As a stay-at-home mom to just one infant, I have my moments when I lose patience with my husband. It's so difficult getting into your groove and figuring out a routine that works. When you have to deal with another person who wants to help, but isn't 100% in tune with how you do things, it can be difficult not to lash out. Multiply that times 8 little children ALL AT ONCE and I don't believe Kate's behavior has been unreasonable. I'm not saying she's been the model wife, just that I understand her. I'm not proud when I lose patience...I always apologize to my husband and try to think of ways to make him feel valued. The cameras don't roll on the Gosselins 100% of the time, so how can anybody judge?

Last night's episode was heartbreaking. One thing I noticed, however, is that Jon and Kate did NOT attack or judge each other the way everyone else seems so comfortable doing. It seemed clear from Jon's statements that he is going through something highly personal, trying to cope with being a dad to 8, not working anymore, and giving up his youth before he was really ready. He never once mentioned his wife as a reason for his behavior. Kate was very respectful as well. She is rightfully very angry (and I think her complaining about Jon being M.I.A. during the party preparations was valid), BUT she did not attack Jon. She said his behavior was "erratic" and repeatedly stated that he was not being "the Jon she knows". She also acknowledged that she has been too harsh, and is not proud of that. The fact that she thinks this behavior is "not like him" rather than just dismissing him as a jerk like so many other women would says a lot about the respect she has for him, in my opinion.

So what if they didn't say "I love you" for the cameras? I think they showed that they do. The last scene showing them having a BBQ at their house left me hopeful that they will be able to work things out. What a breath of fresh air (and a great example) it would be if they could forgive each other and work things out.

The saddest part for me was when little Alexis asked her father not to leave anymore. I seriously got teary eyed over that. Ending the show won't solve their marital problems but it is a start towards regaining back some of the privacy that this family needs right now.

#20, I don't know what show you were watching, but Kate did blame and judge Jon multiple times.

And, no, the cameras aren't on them 100% of the time, but again, they chose to put themselves, particularly their home lives, in the spotlight. They had to have known that people would judge them when they chose this lifestyle.

Also, Jon is the one who stays at home with the kids, not Kate.

Number 20 the kids are the ones that gave me the insight that Kate was the mean one that she treats "their dad mean" not the other way around so, who would I believe an innocent child that sees the world innocently or their mother that tries (yet always fails) to make it seem like she is this kind person?

I did cringe when Kate said "Jon felt that he needed some time off..." about prepping for the party. She goes out of town and all around while he stays home, but that wasn't featured or mentioned, so it was a hit below the belt IMO.
I definitely was surprised to see Kate tear up and cry, and equally surprised about Jon being so stoic. Since it's so not like either one of them, they must be going through a TREMENDOUS time... but I agree with an above poster, since they've previously shown/talked about being Christian, they need to see a Christian counselor and return to the premise of
1. God 2. Marriage THEN 3. Children, while it is commendable to make them important, if they come before your spouse, life will stay an uphill battle.
I am now questioning if I'm going to continue watching, nothing like watching a show and wanting to cry afterward...

i've seen this show once, a while ago, but i did not sense love at all between them and found their interactions to be sad. she seemed annoyed by him and seemed to treat him like he couldn't do anything right (the ep i saw he was making a traditional dish from his childhood).

i realize i have no place judging based on one show, but she really belittled him in that ep...so i had no desire to watch that dynamic.

Kate will do very well surviving as a single mother. Please just count how much she's earned from $75,000 per episode, $25,000 per speaking engagement and $20 per autographed photo. Moreover, you know she'll have a new show that chronicles her life as a single mother. She'll survive very well.

One sign of her hypocrisy last night: She whined about how Jon was not around for the party. Um, the party was not on the actual day of the kids' birthday. On the actual day, Jon was at home with them, and Kate was the one on the other side of the county speaking out to tabloids.

The editors of the show did no favors for Jon, last night was completely the Kate show. All she did was bash Jon for his "poor decisions" but made no mention of the allegations of her own affair, etc.

And there is a solution - ending the show. It may not save their marriage but it's the best thing they can do for their family at this point. Money's not worth what Jon and Kate are putting their kids through.

Alot of people who don't have multiples really can't conceive of how difficult it really is! The strain of my twins (I can't imagine eight babies) almost destroyed us...while simultaneously probably keeping my marriage together. There were many times when I wanted to give up. At one point, my husband suggested we each take one twin and go our own way. (Realistically, neither of us thought we could individually handle caring for both of them as babies alone.) That was a stupid idea. So, we stuck it out, and utlimately found our way back to each other through the process.

Marriages are at their most tenuous point during the early stages of raising kids. I think Kate and Jon have really just been in survival mode during the ordeal of raising their brood through the toddler stage. Like anyone other couple, they either were going to grow together or apart from the experience. Unfortunately, when the dust settled they realized that they were not on the same page of their marriage anymore. Couple this fact with the cameras documenting everything, and I'd bet almost no marriage would be solid.

Divorced parents of eight kids aren't happier. They aren't a "catch" at a bar. They will miss their kids and their life if they trash it and walk away. Jon and Kate obviously once deeply loved each other. Their kids will not be better off if they give up without honestly trying to work it out. TLC and their invasive cameras (I know Kate/Jon were paid well for this) bear some responsility for this mess. For a network which promotes "family values," it's hypocritical to now participate in documenting their demise. TLC should give them a year off...and fund some serious marriage counseling and alone time for these two. In light of the price these eight kids are paying, I can't watch this train wreck anymore. I doubt I'm the only one who will tune out for further episodes. I'd much rather watch a show about them in a year after they've found some peace, and have brought their family back together.

Wow, i'm amazed at the Kate bashing, why are women always so much harder on other women?? The point people, is the BOTH Jon and Kate messed up in their relationship. It happens. And to be honest, they really ARE trying to be respectful to each other, of course they are mad at each other, and little jibs happen, but on the whole they are trying to stay cordial, which is a lot more than what other couples going through tough times can do.

Yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah they have a show so they should expect people to judge blah blah blah. Yes, random strangers making assumptions about your life is a given, however, it's true, the cameras aren't running 100% of the time, who's to say what they really say/do off camera?

From what I understood from the show, as their show took off, Jon decided to QUIT because the show was the main source of income. Kate then wrote a book and like any author will tell you, had to go on the road to promote it, that is STANDARD stuff people. So instead of lugging the kids around, out of school and disrupting their lives, the most natural thing they BOTH decided was that Jon would stay home for a few months while she did her OBLIGATORY promotion. Oh, and for all those "tabloid" stories, while on promotion, she got asked all those questions in between questions about her book. If you've ever read/seen any of the interviews, she tries to talk about it very quickly while still being vague; its clear that the topic of her marriage isn't her main priority since it's no one's business but her own.

Again, its a hard thing for the couple, both are responsible for their contribution to the dissemination of their marriage. I for one hope they can work it out, they truly did care for each other and I hope they can rekindle it.

Hs, I'd love to see some links or know where you heard/read that it was a mutual decision for Jon to stay home, because he's made it clear on the show that he didn't want to stay home and everything I've ever read also makes it clear that it was Kate's decision.

i saw them together about 8 months ago at a speaking engagement. They seemed both to love their children but Jon didn't state once that he wanted any more than the twins, if that. Not that he doesn't love them but it seems this life isn't what he would have chosen.

and not to be cruel but they did this to themselves by placing themselves and more ridiculously, their family in the spotlight.

after hearing them last yr, i m not surprised at all.

All of that...the tears, the "stoicness," the statistics, the seating positions? ALL CREATED BY PRODUCERS.

I mean, as a Sugar Inc employee, you should be all too familiar with sneaky marketing...we get it hurled at us constantly on the sugar sites in the form of reviews, endorsements, etc. In fact, this review might just be a product placement for TLC!

I agree amers - There was no mention of the allegations against Kate. I felt really bad because Jon was being the bigger person, admitting he's made mistakes, etc. All Kate did was agree that Jon has made mistakes, and blame it all on him. I hated the tone she used when she would say things about how Jon "needed a weekend away." Do you blame him? She was away all that time promoting her book and giving tabloid interviews... he was at home with the kids. He clearly loves his children, but I'd want a weekend off too! I thought the BBQ scene at the end was sad.. I'm not 100% sure what Jon said, but something about he hopes the children can see that they're friends, whether they're married or not. That was so sad. I also wondered why they didn't mention Kate's brother Kevin and his wife Jodi giving those interviews? I agree with what people are saying about it being hard being a mother to eight children.. but Jon has to take care of them too! And being a mother to 8 children doesn't mean you have to dress up for the paparazzi and call attention to them whenever they're around and just basically be so fame hungry.

The problem is that Kate is so happy writing and promoting, even when John is miserable. I'm not married, but I think a wife should show some empathy and feel a need to change when your spouse is unhappy.

All I want to say is, it's hypocritical to whine about paps when you have a camera crew following you. You want privacy? Wow, yup, I can see that with the cameras around

lilkimbo- whether he "made it clear or not on the show" isn't the point. If you've ever seen any of the other seasons, the major decisions they make in their life they do together. Sure, Kate might suggest it, but Jon also agrees to it in the end. Remember, both couples voluntarily married each other! They knew each other's personalities: Jon= laid back and Kate= the boss. I wholeheartedly believe that even if Kate made the decision, they BOTH agreed to it in the end.

Think, for a minute, if the roles were reversed? What if it was Jon on his book tour and Kate at home with the kids, being sulky? Would you still rush to Jon's aid and belittle Kate? You missed my point, as well as the point of others, that BOTH are responsible for their unhappiness. Harping or nit-picking who did what is fruitless because at the end of the day, do you know them? Are you their best friend/family? You watch a show, you judge them from a show, you have no idea what they do or don't do behind closed doors.
I for one believe in compassion, no one wants to be in the position in which they are in right now. If others choose to spend their time bashing others, so be it, but that's not me

STOP THE SHOW FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHILDREN! I was the little kids age when my parents were divorcing. Even though I didn't understand divorce, I knew what was going on. Please stop the show so that your kids don't have to watch you two get a divorce on national television!!!!!

Hs, funny that you are belittling me based on a few comments. Isn't hypocrisy grand?

And yes, her made it clear in previous seasons, which I have watched. It's been clear from the beginning that she is the decision maker in the family and he kind of goes along. And yes, if their roles were reversed, I would certainly be defending Kate. It's silly to suggest otherwise.

And again, I have every right to judge them based on their show. They put themselves out there! Again, I find it hilarious that you think it's ok to judge me based a few comments, but you claim to be compassionate. Talk about being on a high horse!

Her made it clear should be HE made it clear.

TLC should give them a year off...and fund some serious marriage counseling and alone time for these two.

It's not like they are slaves to TLC --- THEY are the ones who choose to renew their contract(s). TLC's job is simple: to make money. TLC does not - nor should they - care about the marriage.

And with the money they are making, I think they can afford counseling.

I'm SO TIRED of people who go on tv, get instant fame with all the trappings (money, big house, nice things), and then whine whine whine about privacy.

It's not the show that's just an excuse, I mean their marriage is having issues plain and simple if anything I thikn it would be worse if they didn't have the show. Pretty much both them spent their twenties being parents instead of out enjoying the world in their twenties I couldn't imagine being a parent that young at 22 I had jsut graduated college and was ready to explore the world some more.

And I see that you have no links or sources. But, I guess subtly attacking me is easier than backing up what you said.

lilkimbo, i'm not judging you dear, i'm noting what you said and expressing my opinion that it is harsh. You made comments, I talked about those comments. There is a difference sweetheart.

You say its "silly to suggest otherwise" about defending Kate, well how would I deduce that from your comments when all you had to say was sympathy for Jon and contempt for Kate? Again, i'm making comments based off of YOUR comments, i'm not judging you as a person, I don't know you in real life!

And yes, you can think whatever you want about them based on the show, however keep in mind that you don't know the full story. To understand that there is more to their lives than what you see is showing compassion. I love how you think i'm on a high horse because I wanted to make that distinction To each his own I guess!

That's a good point, #42. I do think the show/being in the limelight may have exacerbated their problems, but they were so young when they got married and had children. I also thought it was strange that the twins were born so soon after they got married. Generally doctors don't like to use in vitro unless all other options have been exhausted.

Jon has made it perfectly clear that he didn't want the show. It was originally a special (a one time deal) about raising multiples.

Hs, when you fall off that high horse it is certainly going to hurt. You most definitely are judging me. If you honestly believe that you're not, you're more delusional than I thought.

The obvious implication of this statement: "I for one believe in compassion, no one wants to be in the position in which they are in right now. If others choose to spend their time bashing others, so be it, but that's not me," is that those who have made negative comments about the couple and their behavior are not compassionate. That, sweetheart, is a judgment, plain and simple.

By the way, I obviously understand that there is more to their lives. I mean, duh! I'm not a moron.

Contrary to what you seem to believe.

And, I think you're on a high horse not because you claim to be compassionate, but because you are saying one thing and then doing another. You are acting like you are above judging people, but you are blatantly judging me. To each her own, I guess!